Hey Dave,

I saw the post. I'll be posting up some more pics this weekend on the board, as long as I remember to bring the camera with me.

John

Probably the guy who showed up at the DSM shootout this year. He managed a 13.7 if I can remember correctly with a 2.0 / 14B or 16G. I think I need to register on the GVR4 board :)

Acutally, the person at the shootout is has a Summit 3 door , the other member on the board GVR4 board is runn 5 door. Same as my wagon :)

John

Cool. I have a 1993 Plymouth Colt Vista and I have been studying turboing it too. Mine already has AWD and a rear LSD so I'm thinking engine, harness, ecu, fuel pump from a 2g eclipse turbo. Just a stock engine swap to make things simple. What parts will not be a direct swap? And how can they be adapted?

From what I've learned so far, the 92's came with a 6-bolt 4g64 and everything else with a 2.4 came with a 7-bolt. So you'll have to use 2g (7-bolt) stuff if you're gonna use that block. If it's a 1.8 don't bother.

Probably easier would be building up an engine or (like you said) just a swap. You have a lot of options. First you should decide on a 2.0 liter (straight swap) or 2.4 liter (custom build). Then decide on a 6-bolt or a 7-bolt. You may have to mix and match motor mounts, but it should bolt right in. As you said, you'll need the ECU and a harness, unless you want to try and do some wiring work. You can just buy a Walbro fuel pump unless you are going to keep the boost <~15 psi; then you could use a stocker from a turbo engine.

No, at the shootout they were 3 Summit, 2 were 3 doors (one of which is my friend's Summit who ran 9.6 or 9.7 @ 14x mph that day) but there was a Summit Wagon with a complete 4G63 swap. I've seen it once do the 1/4 mile at 13.8. I remember that this guy would only fit in the Quick 16 group since it was neither a DSM or an EVO, but it has a 4G63T which allowed him to be on the track as per Buschur's requirement for the SO.

Depending on your budget . you could probably do the same thing I'm doing , i.e. to keep the stock bottom end and add the turbo on this engine. The 4G64 with OEM NA piston is not as strong as a 4G63, but it can handle 10-11 psi on a daily basis. I have a friend who is running a plain 4G64 with a 16G @ 10 psi for at least two years now without any problem. Another friend did pretty much the same setup but on an NA 4G63 with a T25. The key it's just to play on the safe side. Things could turn bad if you're not monitoring what your doing and tuning like the regular Joe Blow. And with a T-25, I'm too much concern about over boosting the setup. Since we can say that the T25 @ 11 psi is putting 200HP on the crank at 8.5:1 on a 2.0, I'm expecting something around 250HP with the 2.4 @ 9.5:1. If I can make the 1/4 mile in the mid -14, I will be more than happy and will have a killer sleeper. My goal is to get it in the mid-14 for less than 1200$US. I've paid the van 200$ that's in pretty good shape. Severals friend gave me old stuff from their DSM . So far I'm on my target and I have pretty much all I need.