I raced a v6 accord most likely a 2003-2004. He had what sounded like exhaust. Well He punched it then I punched it and I got the jump but he kept up pretty dang close and actually started moving up a little bit on me toward the end about 70-75. Now could he keep up with me with maybe a intake and exhaust, me having intake, bov? Was my car just running really crappy and I should of killed him, or are they really that fast? Would it be more likely that he had more then exhaust to keep up with me? Please let me know cause I was very suprised!! :right:

Was it a coupe or sedan?

if ur car is pretty much completly stock... dont expect to beat much of anything... ur car has 205 Fhp (not bhp) or 210 if ur a manual....

FHP? what is that?

It was a v6 coupe and I do have a manual. That is kinda a weird statement "if ur car is pretty much completly stock... dont expect to beat much of anything.." I beat lots of car, especially 2002-2004 eclipses! WEll are they that fast, the v6 accords?

thats not saying much. i wouldn't call that something to be bragging about

Not bragging just saying Your car is SLOW!!

kid. I'm not even going there.

Accords. ha. ah ha. ha ha ha.

Don't pick on the mods. ;)

my car is slow? my stock car can hang with your stock car.....so i guess that means that your stock car is slow too

There is no way your car stock can hang with mine! Your smoking if you think that. Even modded you will still get smoked!

you have a very hard time reading, don't you. I said my STOCK car can run with your STOCK car. STOCK meaning no mods.

a 3G GT WILL run with a GS-T. the 3G WILL get the gst off the line and through 2nd gear. once in third, the 3G loses too much power and thats when the gst will start to pull.

fhp = flywheel horsepower... u know the BS that most car mfgr's use to say their cars x amount of power.

and, a v-6 accord is not that slow... its not fast by any stretch, but its not too slow.

and, yes, a bone stock GS-T is slow, too. My car has around 300bhp and ~260lb/ft of torque.... so mine is decently fast, i make a better power to weight ratio than a 2004 Corvette. so is a bone stock GT for that matter... there have been very few cars under $30k that i would ever consider to be fast out of the box. in fact, the only one i can think of right now is an SRT-4. and, yes, SRT-4's are pretty **** fast. if you dont believe me, go drive one.

fhp, bhp, chp are all basically the same.....none of them are whp :laughing: . ive ridden in a slightly modded srt4. **** that thing could get up and go. we raced a 3G GT with i/h/e (which doesn't do much for the GT) and spanked it by like 4 cars.

I know srt are fast I was wondering about the v6 accord, but I would guess there pretty fast with 240hp coupe and man. About the 2003-4 Gt keeping up with a 97-99 gst just isn't happening. I kept up with v6 eclipse in my 99 gmc sonoma with full exhaust stock it's 190hp. My eclipse can smoke my old truck.I really don't see that happening or hear of that happening, sorry to say!

compare the 1/4 mile times man.....GS-t - ~14.9-15.4, GT - ~15.1-15.6

compare the bhp #s.... GS-t - 210, GT - 200

i, along with numerous other GT's, have raced stock gst's. its a close race, but the gst always wins. its NEVER a blowout. this is 5spd vs. 5spd. now a 5spd GS-t would stomp an auto GT.

you also forgot to mention convertables.

extra weight. less chasis stiffness.

convertables are not ment to be raced. they are for top down fun. chick cars. :grin:

actually, strangely enough the auto gs-t (stock) is faster than the manual gs-t (also stock)

and FYI: bhp=whp... brake horsepower is a term to measure numbers taken from a chassis dyno, just like whp. fwhp = front wheel hp, rwhp = rear wheel hp, awhp = all wheel hp, ppl like to come up with lots of way to say something that isnt really all that important to begin with... torque is the number that matters.

i will have to disagree with you on the bhp=whp. bhp is defined as the measure of an engine's horsepower without the loss in power caused by the gearbox, generator, differential, water pump and other auxiliaries. The actual horsepower delivered to the driving wheels is less.

also...


the cases where this doesn't apply are with motorcycles and marine outboard engines.

but you are correct, torque numbers are all that matter.

ok, i'll take ur word for it, but the dyno operators ive talked to always say that bhp refers to numbers made on a chassis dyno, not a flywheel dyno....

but anyways, i was thinking about it, and torque really doesnt say much either... i think the only number that actually says anything about the quickness of your car is a 1/4 e.t.

that would depend on whether somebody wants to be a dyno queen or a track queen