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SasaMP
post Nov 1 2005, 10:23 AM
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Hi everyone... I have a quick question... I am driving an 04 Mits Endeavor XLS AWD.... and i am looking to trade it in for something smaller and faster... I saw couple of 3000 GT's where i live and i always see on the back right window (one of the small ones) they have a sticker that says Twin Turbo... does 3000 GT come with TT or? Sorry if this is a stupid question but i just want to know cuz i really like those cars... And can someone give me some info about them are they fast when stock, what kind of engine is it, how much stock HP... is there lots of parts for them etc....

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There are 3 versions.

the base is a normally asperated single over head cam with roughly 170 hp. front wheel drive.

The SL version has a normally asperated dual over head cam and has a bit more than 220 horsepower. also front wheel drive. It comes with a fair amount of features standard such as leather seats and active suspension and what not.

The VR-4 is a twin turbo all wheel drive car with about 300 - 320 hp. (year dependent) some models have all wheel steering, active exhaust, and active areo, and what not. (again, year dependant) (most are pretty much gimmicks to sell the car better. the only real useful one in my humble opinion is the active suspension.) The VR-4 is a manual transmission only vehicle. (at least in the states.)

The horsepower ratings are at the engine, not the wheels.

They VR-4s are fairly heavy, with the all wheel drive, and extra gimmicks. they are still pretty quick, despite this and can be modded fairly easily if one wants to.

The engine in all of them is a 6g72. the primary difference being of course the single over head and dual over head cams. the difference between the sl and VR-4 engine is primarily the compression ratio... 10 to 1 versus 8 to 1 in the VR-4.

how fast the car is stock depends on how healthy it is, as most are 10~15 years old now, and have been beaten hard for the majority of there life. a healthy VR-4 is about high 4 to low 5 second 0-60 and typically runs low 14s, high 13s in the quarter mile at about 97~100 mph.

there are a few cheap mods, but you quickly run into a situation where the turbos are to small, and the fuel isn't there to support more horsepower. But the engine is fairly stout.

The transfer case is a weak spot, as any object weighing 3,800 lbs and being launched at 6k rpm will eventually fail. this is something that will need to be checked on a prospective car. There was a recall, so see if it has been done, and even if it has, check for leakage. also, shift through all the gears, as replacing synchros can be expensive.

If you find a good car it will be reliable. if you pick up a "deal" it will need work (most likely expensive) to bring it up to a dependably fast vehicle.

Also look into insurance.

any other questions feel free to ask. or do more research.

www.us3s.org/freeforum
www.3si.org/forum
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are dedicated 3/S websites.
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post Nov 1 2005, 09:01 PM
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Here's a link to some quick reading to answer most of your quick question. What I like most about these cars is that they're rare. If you find one in good condition, I can almost bet you'll fall in love with it.

http://www.gate.net/~dhaupert/3000faq.html
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thanks alot..... :57:
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don't forget to mention that if your transfer case goes out, mitsu//dodge has to replace it for free. Recalls! All around, the vr-4 is just more expensive to maintain//insure, when a 5 speed DOHC will make you just as happy, and with some modifications it can run high 14s.
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when a 5 speed DOHC will make you just as happy,

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QUOTE(toxicamerica @ Nov 2 2005, 09:55 AM)
don't forget to mention that if your transfer case goes out, mitsu//dodge has to replace it for free.  Recalls!  All around, the vr-4 is just more expensive to maintain//insure, when a 5 speed DOHC will make you just as happy, and with some modifications it can run high 14s.
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99% of the transfer case problems were in the 1st gens, the 2nd gen got a re-designed one, as for the "5spd dohc will make you just as happy" comment, obviously you drive that minivan that's in your sig, I have driven a 2 different dohc's and two different VR4's and there is a world of difference
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