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> Manual Vs Auto/auto Stick Transmission
dirtwagon
post Nov 15 2005, 12:12 AM
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Does anyone have an AWD outlander with a manual trans? I'm not sure if that was an option, but would be interested to know. Is the transmission geared any better than the Auto for highway cruising? I don't like being at 2800rpm's at 70 mph, but I know the car doesn't supply enough power realistically to have an overdrive, so that's out. Any feedback?
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post Nov 15 2005, 01:56 AM
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I know the newer 06 models have a manual option.

as far as the auto stick, I find it useful when maxing out to the redline. the regular AT shifts around 3000 rpms.

redline is at about 6500 (a little more or less depending on mods) with full use of the powerband.

also, the tranny has an adaptive feature and usually follows what you do in certain situations. for example, when in auto stick mode, you are moderate with the throttle and shift at 4000 rpms, when you go back to normal AT, using again moderate throttle, it should shift at around the same points.

its a nice system, the only problem I have with it is "resetting" the shift points when I move from highway to city/town driving.
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post Nov 16 2005, 03:47 PM
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I do enjoy the auto stick, however, I would assume that the manual would allow you to have a faster launch. (e.g. crossing two lanes of oncoming traffic in rush hour). I do let the rpm's get up close to 6K occasionally but am wondering if there is a lot of power loss due to my AWD system, or if it is mostly the auto trans. Additionally, I think the manual trans is a 5 speed- was hoping for lower highway rpm's.
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post Jun 8 2006, 09:40 PM
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hi all,

maybe a bit late for someone to answer dirtwagon's query, to which no other manual trans outie driver has responded all this time....the manual trans is no better than your auto as far as rev's in highest gear at hwy speed; in fact your auto must have an over-
drive as the stick turns over 3m r's in overdrive at 65-70 mph, while yours is at 2800!

my '93 expo's 4g64 turned 3m rpm's at 65 mph in 5th, and about 3200 at 70 mph, w/ a whole lot more power seemingly on tap. that engine seems to have also had more low-end power than the outlander's mivec 4g64 (is the engine code the same for those w/ the newer head?).

anyway, one would then ask how the manual is rated one mpg better than the auto if said auto is turning less rev's at a given roadspeed....go figure....

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post Jun 9 2006, 12:01 PM
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Swedish outlander's 2,0 turbo has 120km/h =74,5 miles/h at 3000 rew's... on fifth gear with stickshift... The legal maximum speed is 110km/h = 68,3 miles...
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post Jun 23 2006, 02:34 PM
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The auto actually does have an overdrive, but not really a big difference.
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post Jun 24 2006, 04:26 AM
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At ftp://ftp.etel.sk/ Password and username is mitel... There u can se (video) what a 2,0 turbo with a 5 speed manual makes on 1'st - 4'rt gear... At http://hemsidor.torget.se/users/b/bohjohan...vert/conv_s.htm
and at the top of the page to the right u'll find "in english" , there u easy can convert all metric to miles. And mutch more...haha !! "If u wanna bake a kake from a swedish recepy some day...haha!!! "
From 750 rew's (idle) up to 7000 (62 miles/h) on second gear takes 8,5-9 sec depending on how mutch fuel/ extra weight there is....
Dont worry aboute the engine's high rpm... Its built to run on high rpm and can't be compared to a 5-6 liter V8... Other than the fuel economy..haha! Pitty u dont hawe turbo models in us.. That gives torqe (from 2000rews) in a 2 liter engine compared to a V8.. If i use full trottle from 45 km/h (28 mph) to 110 (68 mph) on 5'th gear and never use high rpm at lower gears i get a nice fuel economy..
26 mpg in citydrive.. ( allmoast no waiting for greenlights in northern sweden) Thats aboute the same mpg as higwaydrive at 74,5 mph... At legal higway68 mph it drops to less than 8L/100 (+30 mpg)... WITH ECODRIVE!!!
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post Jun 24 2006, 05:28 PM
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as far as i know in the uk the only option is the 2.4mivec engine with a tip-tronic autobox 4speed transmission.no manuals.not sure about outside the uk
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post Jun 29 2006, 02:49 PM
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In the U.S. we have both manual and auto in both the FWD and AWD versions.
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late again as usual....a day late and a buck short is my lifestory....blimey, no manual trans outlanders in the uk? when i was visiting family there some 25 years ago, i only saw late-model mercedes-benz's w/ automatics....what's the world coming to when europeans go american with auto trans's? i'll bet the quality of the average uk driver has gone down as well, just like here....
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It's all aboute money... All 1985 galant turbo's had manual trans, sunroof and abs brakes but no powersteering... In sweden black or silver is the only collor for outlander turbomodels..Manual transm 5 gears.. No 2wd outlanders at all..
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I drove a 2.4Mivec Outy with manual trans. it was good ! I can go dynamically with it and it has enough torque at low RPM, and went nice @ high RPM too ( and has very great sound ) . But with aut. trans it can be lazzy :-)
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The torqe at turbo models are 303 newton at 3500 rews.. I guess i have some 378 now without the second cat.. The túrbo is small and comes at low rews and whith a heawy trailer it has maximum pressure at 1500 rews allready in first gear.. So hawing a stickshift is no big problem... 1-3-5 and let the torqe do the work saves fuel.. But once the horsepower is used, gasoline is pumping... haha
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