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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-23-2018, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
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Bad starter?

So for the past month I've been having issues when starting the car... sometimes it will start fine but other it won't. When turning key everything is quiet, no clicking noise that would suggest a bad battery or anything. Sometimes it takes a few turns and it will start and run normal. The vehicle has 160k miles and the starter has never been replaced. Do you guys have any idea of other items that could generate this issue?

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-25-2018, 10:26 AM
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Weak battery you would hear the clicking unless it is so close to dead that the lights etc are also having issues. Start with cleaning your battery terminals and actually have the battery tested by someone. That is always the best place to start since they will test it for free.

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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-25-2018, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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I do not have clicking noise. lights and radio come on normal.
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-29-2018, 07:33 PM
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First you need to eliminate possibility of a bad starter or solenoid:

1) have an assistant turn ignition key and hold key in the start position, then...
2) lightly tap the starter solenoid with a heavy object or tool; or
3) wack the starter motor body.

If no response, test for voltage at the starter solenoid when key is in the Start position.

If no voltage present with key is in start position, then you most likely have a worn "ignition switch". This electric switch is mounted in (or behind) the ignition barrel lock, in the steering column.

If you have access to a wiring diagram, you will be able to disconnect the harness plug and test for continuity at the plug, when key is moved in each position.
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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-30-2018, 12:16 AM
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turn on your headlights and try starting your car. if the lights dim that means that you're getting power to the starter and that it's just not cranking.
if the lights don't dim it could be your ignition switch or even just a loose starter cable connection.
good luck.
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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-30-2018, 12:26 AM
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I have had the same problem and symptoms for the last year and a few months. Sometimes I have to turn the key up to 8 or 9 times before it starts.

I park the car as I am away 6mos every winter. Last year when I returned the problems started - no clicks etc. I had the battery replaced and the car checked out twice.

Could this be connected to the safety feature that won't let the car start if the clutch is not depressed while in gear?

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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-07-2018, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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Well mine is automatic... car didn't bother me again until today... but ended up turning on. I really need figure this one out.... thinking about removing the starter and take for testing at the parts shop.
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-09-2018, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, so just experienced another set of fail starts... I turned on the headlights and did not see them dimming or any change really as I tried to start the car... after a few tries it did turn... So this seems be an ignition issue? Because if it was a loose starter connection it wouldn't start at all... right?
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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-16-2019, 03:39 PM
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My automatic 04 XLS just started doing this. Any luck with the ignition switch swap? Mine just hesitates for a second, then starts cranking and starts right up.
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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-24-2019, 08:33 PM
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Do modern cars have some sort of sensor to replace the old school neutral safety switch on autos?
(Only starts when the box is in P or N)
same symptoms
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-26-2019, 04:53 AM
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Hi, any chance that the EGR valve is stuck open/ closed assuming that your engine is turning over.
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