AFAIK, significant money needs to be spent to get a Magna compatible scan tool that will work.

There was a mechanic not far from me who had one that worked.

Unfortunately, he retired and closed down a few years ago.

"Affordable" home mechanic type level equipment will not work.

Hence, I have not tried to purchase one.

But, if anyone knows anything different, please share.

 

I have a few scanners from factory if interested.

 

I am using a Bosch unit that I have had a couple of years. Not the cheapest. Not the most expensive[as I recall @ $150us]. I bought it because it has online upgrades available for it, and accesses all the computers in your vehicle [My Nissan truck has 5-6]. Cannot say it will work on your vehicle but, I think you kind of get what you pay for with things like this. ...J.D.

 

No.

The unique Australian made 3rd. generation Magna/Verada has a special protocol, which needs a special "workshop" or "dealership" quality scan tool.

It is at least $1,000, if you can find the right one.

There were enough discussions about this on the old AMC forum.

Grasping at straws will almost certainly result in money wasted.

 

Interesting. Of course, those never came over here, as so much the other stuff I would like to see, but our government "protects us" from. ...J.D.

 

I purchase a MUT 111 setup from aliexpress but it is not configured for Australian models. I think it needs the model identification of the equivalent Diamante. Haven't followed this up any further.
Priced a Launch branded product from a Sydney distributor supposed to work for all Australian manufactured vehicles - $2400
Nothing else at lower price that will work.

 

Thanks for the information.

It helps to confirm what my limited understanding of the situation was.

 

A question for you guys down under...Where were the Mitsubishi models you are driving built ? ...In the U.S. there is a federal emissions standard [OBD-2] in place for all vehicles sold new here. The Mitsubishis we have here were either built in the U.S. [factory now close], or in Japan. Do you have something like that down there ? ...J.D.

 

Australia's automotive industry did not adopt OBD2 until 2006, so it's pot-luck as to whether any new car sold here prior to that can be scanned using an OBD2 diagnostic tool. As some examples:

1. My Hyundai Sonata EF V6s (1998-2002) are OBD1 systems, but some OBD2 scanners will read them, with the right software. For example, my OBDLink LX Bluetooth scanner will read the EMS with the free "CarScanner" app available from Google Play Store, but not with the software that came with the unit itself. Nonetheless, it also won't scan other systems, like transmission etc. That's the main reason I bought my Foxwell NT530 diagnostic tool - because it communicates with every Hyundai ever produced, not just the OBD2/2006+ models, and it does so multi-directionally with all systems (i.e. Engines/EMS, transmission, SRS etc.).

2. All systems on my Nephew's Honda CRV 2002 can be read/cleared etc using my OBD2 Bluetooth (OBDLink LX) scanner. Same for my friend's 1994 Ford (Australia) Fairlane V8 (go figure!).

3. My friend's 1&2 Gen Toyota Prius are most reliably read using the OBDLink MX+ scanner, with added Toyota module.

4. My Mum's '98 Mitsubishi Verada (Diamante in O/seas language) isn't even visible to any OBD2 scanner/reader that I've tried, but seemed to cooperate fully with my Foxwell NT530 that I bought a couple of years ago, once I paid the additional ~AUD$100 a few days ago to add the Mitsubishi OE (OBD1/"MUT") software to it.

5. My daughter's '98 Hyundai Excel (Accent) - invisible to OBD2 tools, but fully interactive with my Foxwell NT530 with OE (OBD1) software.

6. Neice's 2002 Ford Fiesta 100% OBD2.

Anything sold new from 2006 onwards in Australia is 100% OBD2 (i.e. same as USA & Europe).

 

Mitsubishi took over the Chrysler factory in Adelaide, South Australia in 1980, up until then making large size 6 & v8 models.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Motors_Australia

I learned to drive mostly on an Australian made 1968 model Chrysler VE Valiant.

Almost the same as that driven by Dennis Weaver in the Stephen Spielberg directed movie "Duel".


The Diamante models - the same as a Magna except for trim & detail differences, exported to the USA and elsewhere, were made in that same factory, with a separate engine plant nearby.

Exports[edit]

Throughout the Magna and Verada's time on sale, Mitsubishi Australia exported the model to a variety different countries. The Northern American market saw the luxurious Verada range imported as the Diamante. It was also sold in the United Kingdom, where they imported the Magna Wagon and Diamante Sedan (from Japan) to be collectively sold under the Sigma Nameplate.

Mitsubishi also imported the Verada Wagon, (as the Diamante), into Japan to complement their own Diamante Sedan.

New Zealand saw both nameplates imported, with the added induction of the Mitsubishi V3000.

In smaller markets, the Magna was exported to the Middle East.[91]

The following table lists the Export Markets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Magna

 

Interesting. What I am also curious about is if they have a different ECU setup. In the U.S. all cars use the same standard diagnostic plug and ECU protocols, required under government regulations. All the diagnostic codes are standardized from one manufacturer to another. Even if a car is an import, to be sold new here it has to meet that protocol.
...J.D.

 

I can't answer that myself.

Anyone else?

 

I have a little knowledge on this. Since my current cars are quite old its been challenging to say the least to find cheap obd options.
Car 1. Ford Falcon 1999 it uses an obd1 system, it is only quite recent that its become easy to use obdii scanners with it, there was a long long period of waiting for someone to work it out, aussie ford forums are littered with people trying to work out the old obd1 system.
Now Forscan does the trick can connect no probs, but it took a long long time for it to arrive.
Since car companies are very much global entities was happens in one country also happens in another, I often came across usa fords of same era which used same system, so it appears shared between countries at least with ford.
Car 2: mitsubishi outlander 2003
Sold in usa is exact same ecu ( also early model airtrek pretty much identical also), even down to the wire colours to ecu. During my many years searching for simple obd reader for early mitsubishi of this era ( note: still not available) I found a guy in usa with same model outlander, I asked him to check his wiring colours to obd connector.......identical.
Mitsubishi large global company, once again its all pretty much same wherever you are.

Regarding obd developments into obd2 standard, I think everyone has followed usa, seems its a global standard now ( I'm no expert on it).

What is interesting to me: obd1 ford proprietry system......eventually got worked out and obd devices can be used now using forscan program, very easy cheap to do now.
Mitsubishi Mut2 system: obd proprietry, many different programs useable for very technical individuals, but no simple plug/play program.........as yet.......its very close I believe.
Just as forscan took years and years to come about, same with mut2. Still waiting for that one to arrive, no simple plug/play obd program to connect all computers with mut2.
Maybe its already out there and I haven't found it, been looking pretty hard for some time.

 

That seems to answer my questions. Thanks. ...J.D.

 

I am interested.

 

Hence, I have not tried to purchase one.

But, if anyone knows anything different, please share.

 

I'm looking at trying this (software)...
Ebay: search for MUT-III SE 23121-00

"Mitsubishi's latest version of MUT-III SE 23121-00 (covering 2024 vehicles) and Pass-thru driver, as well as a custom Driver GUI Tool (developed in Australia)."
(Sold by ebay profile ker0de.
+ $80 for the adaptor cable)

I'll let you know how it goes.
Peter.

 

See also this thread:

GEN 3 MITSUBISHI MAGNA/VERADA SCAN TOOL

Have found a scan tool that is supposed to work with Magna's. $400 https://www.azscanners.com.au/vident-i705au-all-system-obd-scan-tool-for-mitsubi

www.mitsubishi-forums.com

 

No mention of MUT 1 protocol. If it does not do that, won't do Magnas.

 

I know the mut 2 protocol is used in the version 1 outlanders, its a big pain to find something that will communicate with it.
What would be nice if you could use that Mut3 software ( readily available on the net) via a pass thru driver, I think some of the mut3 software of mitsubishi
does have the older mut2 in it but its how to connect to the software is an issue for me...........I"m a novice never tried to do it.
If that were possible it would open up all the bells and whistles of the software for any version of mut.

 

Well I had a look at the ebay add, I'm not sure if the latest mut3 software covers mut2 ( is there a mut1 also, not familiar with that one), but you can download different free versions of that software that does cover the older mut protocol. If this is a way to connect the older mut version cars to that software package then its what I've been wanting for a long time. I have no experience with taxtrix etc or pass thru drivers only with obd11 ( a guy in canada makes a box that converts the mut2 to canbus which I use but it doesn't communicate with all the ecus, its limited, he does make another device which does communicate with all the ecus, but using the mitsubishi software is really the way to go. ...very interested in this.

 

FWIW.
The computer communication system is quite generic for the 2wire system bus used in cars, including what is used internationally.
I believe the problem in using 'generic' scan tools is that there are differences between any particular 'address' and what that particular function is named.
The US system required a basic set of addresses and names to be established for the US industry "OBDx". That is, most generic systems can work on Magna, but asking for say 'P0102' my not relate to what it is P0102 in the US standards.
'I think'!
rumpfy

 

A couple of years ago, I bought a Foxwell ET2530 (NT530 outside of Oz) through Repco for $375 (via Australian distributor Endeavour Tools - ET2530 Foxwell Multi System Scan Tool Enthusiast ) to use with my OBD1 Hyundais. It comes complimentary with one manufacturer's software, so obviously I got the Hyundai/Kia with mine, but this morning I paid the ~AUD$100 to install the Mitsi software so I can also use it to work on my Mum's KF Verada. My first experience of using it to scan seems satisfactory, although I'm still getting used to understanding the Mitsi system of OBD1 coding (see my other post from earlier today - (15) Unknown OBD1 Codes '98 KF Verada | Mitsubishi Forums ).

It's not the most user-friendly scanner I've ever used in terms of setting it up with the new software (I had to have a conversation with their helpline), but in short, it seems to scan all systems on my Mum's '98 Verada Ei well enough, and it's sure cheaper than other OBD1 options, which all seem to be well over $1K (see screenshot examples in my other thread just posted above). Seems to give me clear-codes functionality as well, at the very least. If you happen to live in Perth, you're welcome to drop by and try mine on your Mitsi before you actually outlay any money. I think it would still be the same if you bought the Foxwell NT530 through Ebay or whatever for a cheaper price because all the downloading etc I've done has been through the global/US Foxwell website anyway...

Now I just need to better understand the coding system in terms of which error codes mean what (it's certainly quite different to what I get from Hyundai/Kia)...

 

that is really good info, can you say what was the basic process to update the scanner? Have to connect to the internet or via a memory card or some other method?

 

Here are some videos that demonstrate the actual scanner, how to set it up initially, and how to add additional vehicle software. In my case, the only thing I did wrong was assume that, because I already had the FoxAssist application open (from buying and downloading the additional software) it would then update my scanner/SD card, but apparently it will only do that when you have plugged your scanner/SD card into your PC BEFORE you open the application to update with the additional software. In other words, I had to:

1. Go into FoxAssist to buy/download the additional (Mitsubishi OE) software;
2. Once the download has completed, close the FoxAssist App;
3. Insert my SD card reader into the USB port of my PC;
4. Open the FoxAssist App again;
5. Click on update;
6. Eject my SD card/reader and insert back into my NT530 scanner.

Step 1-2 was the longest stage, taking a few (<5?) mins. Steps 3-6 took only a minute or two, if that....

Hope this clarifies.

Foxwell NT530 Unboxing - YouTube
Foxwell NT530 - An Affordable Bi-Directional Scan Tool Less Than $200
Foxwell scanner Activation and Software install Set up
How to Activate and Update the Foxwell NT530 For Extra Software?
Foxwell Scan Tools Software Update - YouTube
Foxwell NT530 - adding a new car brand (PayPal only)

 

thanks Kimp for all the details on updating and getting mitsubishi software, its so easy to do fords with forscan software, suprised that someone has not figured out how to do same for mitsubishi obd1 and obd2. The guy who designed the forscan software made an absolute fortune from app downloads, massive number. That should be incentive enough for some software guru to do same for mitsubishi, I've been waiting a long time for it.

anyhow thanks again for going to trouble to post those details, very good to know the process

 

I contacted Foxwell and have included part of response. View attachment 20510

 

I contacted Foxwell and have included part of response. View attachment 20510

Oops! We ran into some problems.
The requested page could not be found.

 

Thanks for the update.

 

This info was supplied by Foxwell NOT Endeavour Tools and the prices are from the Foxwell site.